Memo: Amazon SVP Dave Treadwell says junior and mid-level engineers now require more senior engineers to sign off any AI-assisted code changes, after outages
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Discussion
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@elonmusk
Elon Musk
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Proceed with caution
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@rahll
Reid Southen
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AI code is breaking Amazon systems at an increasing rate and it's such a problem that junior and mid-level engineers now aren't allowed to commit AI-assisted code without a senior engineer reviewing it. Is anyone surprised?
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@noahpinion
Noah Smith
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BUAHAHAHAHA DESTROY THE INTERNET, MY ROBOTS!!!! DESTROY THE INTERNET !!!!! 🤖🤖🤖⚡⚡⚡💥💥💥
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@lukolejnik
Lukasz Olejnik
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Amazon is holding a mandatory meeting about AI breaking its systems. The official framing is “part of normal business.” The briefing note describes a trend of incidents with “high blast radius” caused by “Gen-AI assisted changes” for which “best practices and safeguards are not […
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@tszzl
Roon
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there will be a cultural change at many software organizations soon where people declare bankruptcy on understanding the code they're committing. sooner or later this will cause a systems failure that will be harder to debug than most, but will be resolved anyways
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@milan_milanovic
Dr Milan Milanović
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Junior and mid-level engineers can no longer push AI-assisted code without a senior signing off at AWS
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@lukolejnik
Lukasz Olejnik
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Also, whoa, non-public corporate technical notes are now casually flying in the media? https://www.ft.com/... [image]
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@presidentlin
@presidentlin
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> Junior and mid-level engineers can no longer push AI-assisted code without a senior signing off. Looks like Code Review tools are going to be a good business, and not the version Anthropic is shipping. You want something more like a precision knife vs a hammer. Command is a
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@dan_jeffries1
Daniel Jeffries
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You thought the alignment problem was the real problem of the AI era. It was always the verification problem. Do you have the skills to know if the output is correct? If not, you FUBAR.
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@sarahoconnorft.ft.com
Sarah O'Connor
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Great reporting from @rafeuddin.ft.com on Amazon's misadventures with AI coding (which have coincided with big headcount reductions) www.ft.com/content/7cab... [image]
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@davidgerard.co.uk
@davidgerard.co.uk
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Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages: — Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’ — www.ft.com/content/7cab... archive: archive.is/wXvF3 — l o l
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@thdxr
Dax
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genie is out of the bottle everyone hitting the magic button button puts your brain in a state of laziness that seeps into all your processes and they get skipped we talk about this all the time and still our team is struggling with it
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@rani
Rani Molla
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GenAI they're just like us! they make mistakes www.ft.com/content/7cab...
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@calbucci
Marcelo Calbucci
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Maybe it's my bad luck, but in the last week I hit major bugs on LinkedIn, Instagram, Amazon, Chrome, VS Code, TikTok, Slack, WhatsApp, and more. It feels the SDLC of yesteryear is not fit for the age of AI.
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@mikeisaac
Rat King
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after this went wide, Amazon vociferously shat upon this story — which detailed the company's internal issues with humans using AI tools and accidentally taking down some of its services now they're making changes to deal with the problems that comms said they werent having [imag…
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@carnage4life
Dare Obasanjo
on bluesky
Many of my commenters are probably saying I told you so right about now. — The reality is that increasing coding velocity without also increasing your ability to review and test the code at that scale is a recipe for disaster.
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r/technology
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Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages
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@alexpalcuie
@alexpalcuie
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more #hugops to my Amazon counterparts maybe this is the moment to invest properly in reliability engineering and stop putting SDEs oncall overnight for mission critical services
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@majicdave
Dave Frampton
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Lol good luck, I'm sure getting more senior engineers to sift through the AI slop all day looking for bugs will work out great [embedded post]
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@nixCraft@mastodon.social
@nixCraft@mastodon.social
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RE: https://social.coop/... Lmao. Gen AI is causing outages at AWS and Amazon causing business income loss. So now all AI created code needs senior developers to check it twice. So how is this saving time? #ai #llm #aws
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@cloud_opinion
@cloud_opinion
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“Amazon is seeking software engineers with 10 years of experience reviewing AI generated code”