Interview with Pentagon AI head Emil Michael on his view that Anthropic leaked negotiations to the press to win anti-Trump users, dealing with Amodei, and more
what if this software went down? Some guardrail kicked up? Some refusal happened for the next fight like this one and we left our people at risk?” “I went to @SecWar @PeteHegseth and told him what happened.” [video]@gurumedasani:@AnthropicAI should take this guy to court for declaring a major American AI lab a supply chain risk when it isn't. They have clearly been using Anthropic models successfully in Department of Defense missions and now want to punish them. This approach will fail as th
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@tszzl
Roon
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i too have a politburo of leading ethicists
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@a16z
@a16z
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Under Secretary of War for Research and Engineering Emil Michael on being the CTO of the Department of War, applying lessons from Silicon Valley at the Pentagon, and his “holy cow” moment with AI vendors. 00:00 Silicon Valley to DC 02:03 Why the DoW cannot operate at “peacetime […
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@alexkozak
Alex Kozak
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Gets flustered by bureaucracy, high ego, blames the previous guy, blows up existing supplier (that seemed to be adding value?) b/c of weird hypotheticals, didn't forsee (or care) about public spat. All so avoidable - why are we here??
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@jawwwn_
@jawwwn_
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.@USWREMichael says the Maduro raid was the trigger point for the DoW's conflict with Anthropic: “Palantir's the prime contractor. [Anthropic] is the sub. One of [Anthropic's] execs called Palantir and asked, ‘Was our software used in that raid?’” ... “It raised enough alarm w…
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@gurumedasani
@gurumedasani
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@AnthropicAI should take this guy to court for declaring a major American AI lab a supply chain risk when it isn't. They have clearly been using Anthropic models successfully in Department of Defense missions and now want to punish them. This approach will fail as they will
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@charliebul58993
Charlie Bullock
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This is illuminating re: DoW's thinking, but it doesn't remotely justify the decision to declare Anthropic a supply chain risk. 3252 defines “supply chain risk” as follows: “The term ‘supply chain risk’ means the risk that an adversary may sabotage, maliciously introduce
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@zachtratar
Zach Tratar
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This honestly sounds like @USWREMichael is targeting Anthropic and may be corrupt. What are his ties to the other labs? Who is he colluding with? None of his actions make sense here. If you don't like their policies, just cancel the contract. Simple as that.
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@garymarcus
Gary Marcus
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“Goddam pesky ethics panels. Can't have that! Full steam ahead, no matter what the cost.”
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@nathanleamerdc
Nathan Leamer
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The team at @PirateWires have an enlightening interview with @USWREMichael. He explains how the @DeptofWar made the important decision to confront Anthropic over their onerous terms and services that would significantly impair our nation's military readiness. [image]
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@calccon
@calccon
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“This is a contract that should be made with GEICO Insurance, not with the Department of War,”
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@nic_carter
Nic Carter
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every single piece of evidence and reporting about the Anthropic/DoW spat has revealed that they were an absolute liability and had no place in our wartime military infrastructure*
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@ericnewcomer
Eric Newcomer
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worth reading this interview with @emilmichael in @PirateWires https://www.piratewires.com/ ...
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@scotthar_tx
@scotthar_tx
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Hmmm... @andrewrsorkin has reported on-air for the last few days that OpenAI has the very same problematic terms described, that caused the DOW to part with Anthropic. He says these ToS are really a fig leaf for Anthropic not being MAGA enough in its politics. Which is it?
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@jasonmhicks
Jason Hicks
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It's easy to get an ‘exclusive’ if you interview one interested party and don't challenge them, but it's not journalism.
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@solaawodiya
Sola Awodiya
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For those wondering how the Anthropic saga started, take a read.
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@micsolana
Mike Solana
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pirate wires interviewed the DOW's AI chief yesterday. new details here on the negotiation with anthropic, including more context on the SCR designations, and color on a massive culture clash. most salient point, perhaps: emil michael says a deal is still possible.
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@piratewires
@piratewires
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EXCLUSIVE: Department of War AI Chief On How The Anthropic Deal Collapsed When Emil Michael (@USWREMichael) took over the Department of War's AI portfolio last August, he discovered the Biden admin had been “asleep at the wheel” when it came to top military contracts. “I was [ima…
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@stevesi
Steven Sinofsky
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Inside the Culture Clash That Tore Apart the Pentagon's Anthropic Deal // The craziest thing about this deal (to me) is the idea that there are _any_ terms of use or operational parameters in a deal with DoD. My experience over a very long time is you kill yourself to get a
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@deredleritt3r
Prinz
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This clarifies why the DoD is pursuing the supply chain risk designation against Anthropic. The tensions started with the Maduro raid. The DoD was using Palantir as a service provider during the raid. Palantir was using Claude. Anthropic contacted Palantir and started asking
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@paulnovosad
Paul Novosad
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Worth reading, since 99% of the chatter on here has been Anthropic=saint, Hegseth=psychopath
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@gdsimms
@gdsimms
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ok, I was unsure & leaning this way so far, but this really cements that the DoW did the right thing re: Anthropic. Sorry guys, love your product but you simply can not act like all of your customers are in the same league. Hopefully you can swallow your pride & move forward.
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@hamandcheese
Samuel Hammond
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Nothing in here to justify the SCR decision, though nice to hear the bridge isn't totally burned. One hopes cooler heads will prevail and the designation will be withdrawn sooner rather than later.
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@cryptopunk7213
@cryptopunk7213
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i'm fckin exhausted from all the anthropic drama tbh but it keeps getting more and unhinged, timeline of events: - palantir revealed they used claude to capture president maduro - anthropic didn't like that. raises concerns to palantir. - palantir tells pentagon who panics and
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@lulumeservey
Lulu Cheng Meservey
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Whatever you think of Dario's decision, it's super impressive how employees have closed ranks behind him During heated controversies, companies often have people publicly dissenting, resigning in protest, etc Anthropic's united front is a sign of internal consistency and trust
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@sjgadler
Steven Adler
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Nathan is being polite here. Either .@emilmichael, a senior member of the Department of War, is wildly mistaken about major AI policy, or he chose to say something that is wildly untrue.
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Inside the Culture Clash That Tore Apart the Pentagon's Anthropic Deal