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• @paularmstrongtbd Paul Armstrong on bluesky

  How nice they are to protect their multi-billion dollar investment.  [embedded post]

• @mikeisaac Rat King on x

  anthropic getting some vouches from Microsoft, Google and even Amazon, telling customers that you can still use their clouds to run anthropic's AI products as long as it's not involving DoD work... https://www.cnbc.com/...

• @alecstapp Alec Stapp on x

  Hegseth tried to kill Anthropic with the misleading way he described the supply chain risk designation in his tweet announcement. But it looks like the company will survive now that the smoke has cleared a bit: [image]

• NewsMax.com Jim Thomas on x

  Anthropic CEO Apologizes as Pentagon Acts

• @deanwball Dean W. Ball on x

  It would be cool, aesthetically, if we had a yudkowskian SecWar who saw anthropic as the most /acc of the labs and designated them enemies of the state on that basis, but instead it is because SecWar thinks that Dario's personal home has 93 special bathrooms for all the Genders

• @danprimack Dan Primack on x

  Shots fired by someone who usually keeps his public powder dry (yes, Kushner is big OpenAI investor)

• @joshuakushner Joshua Kushner on x

  dario's commitment to hating openai is seemingly stronger than his commitment to the values and principles of anthropic

• @morqon Morgan on x

  dario apologises for crashing out [image]

• @apples_jimmy @apples_jimmy on x

  Going to guess an agreement will be done sooner than later from the tone of this ? [image]

• @smi Stacy-Marie Ishmael on bluesky

  “I also want to apologize directly for a post internal to the company that was leaked to the press yesterday.  Anthropic did not leak this post nor direct anyone else to do so—it is not in our interest to escalate this situation.”  —  www.anthropic.com/news/where- s...

• @eclecticbrotha1 @eclecticbrotha1 on bluesky

  Paraphrasing Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei: “At first we didn't want to help the United States create autonomous killbots, but then we realized we'd be missing out on all that sweet sweet scratch...”  —  www.anthropic.com/news/where- s...

• @justinhendrix Justin Hendrix on bluesky

  Amodei: “Anthropic will provide our models to the Department of War and national security community, at nominal cost and with continuing support from our engineers, for as long as is necessary to make that transition, and for as long as we are permitted to do so.” www.anthropic.c…

• @sambiddle.com Sam Biddle on bluesky

  I think one of the most staggering industry shifts in my 16 years as a tech reporter is that it's not become a question of “should our product help the government kill and/or surveil people?” but “to what extent?”  —  www.anthropic.com/news/where- s...

• @alexpanetta Alex Panetta on bluesky

  Summary: 1) Anthropic still negotiating with Pentagon 2) Supply chain risk designation has arrived via letter; it's narrowly written, affects minimal slice of business 3) Apologizes for angry memo — says he didn't leak it; was written amid anger last Friday www.anthropic.com/news…

• @timkellogg.me Tim Kellogg on bluesky

  Dario's apology  — They're still working on non-conflicting uses within the DoW  — Some legal analysis implying Hegseth is out of line  — Reaffirms that SCR designation is very narrow scope  —  www.anthropic.com/news/where- s...  [image]

• @peark.es George Pearkes on bluesky

  “we do not believe this action is legally sound, and we see no choice but to challenge it in court.”

• @isolyth.dev @isolyth.dev on bluesky

  Update directly from Dario on Anthropic's situation with the DoD.  They will be taking the DoD to court over the supply chain risk designation.

• r/technology r on reddit

  Anthropic: Where things stand with the Department of War

• r/Anthropic r on reddit

  Where Anthropic Stands with Department of War

• r/singularity r on reddit

  Where Anthropic Stands with Department of War

• r/ClaudeCode r on reddit

  A statement from Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei

• r/ClaudeAI r on reddit

  A statement from Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei

• @stevesi Steven Sinofsky on x

  Inside the Culture Clash That Tore Apart the Pentagon's Anthropic Deal // The craziest thing about this deal (to me) is the idea that there are _any_ terms of use or operational parameters in a deal with DoD. My experience over a very long time is you kill yourself to get a

• @charliebul58993 Charlie Bullock on x

  This is illuminating re: DoW's thinking, but it doesn't remotely justify the decision to declare Anthropic a supply chain risk. 3252 defines “supply chain risk” as follows: “The term ‘supply chain risk’ means the risk that an adversary may sabotage, maliciously introduce

• @a16z @a16z on x

  Under Secretary of War for Research and Engineering Emil Michael on being the CTO of the Department of War, applying lessons from Silicon Valley at the Pentagon, and his “holy cow” moment with AI vendors. 00:00 Silicon Valley to DC 02:03 Why the DoW cannot operate at “peacetime […

• @paulnovosad Paul Novosad on x

  Worth reading, since 99% of the chatter on here has been Anthropic=saint, Hegseth=psychopath

• @alexkozak Alex Kozak on x

  Gets flustered by bureaucracy, high ego, blames the previous guy, blows up existing supplier (that seemed to be adding value?) b/c of weird hypotheticals, didn't forsee (or care) about public spat. All so avoidable - why are we here??

• @jawwwn_ @jawwwn_ on x

  .@USWREMichael says the Maduro raid was the trigger point for the DoW's conflict with Anthropic: “Palantir's the prime contractor. [Anthropic] is the sub.” “One of [Anthropic's] execs called Palantir and asked, ‘Was our software used in that raid?’” “So— they're trying to get [vi…

• @gurumedasani @gurumedasani on x

  @AnthropicAI should take this guy to court for declaring a major American AI lab a supply chain risk when it isn't. They have clearly been using Anthropic models successfully in Department of Defense missions and now want to punish them. This approach will fail as they will

• @garymarcus Gary Marcus on x

  “Goddam pesky ethics panels. Can't have that! Full steam ahead, no matter what the cost.”

• @nathanleamerdc Nathan Leamer on x

  The team at @PirateWires have an enlightening interview with @USWREMichael. He explains how the @DeptofWar made the important decision to confront Anthropic over their onerous terms and services that would significantly impair our nation's military readiness. [image]

• @calccon @calccon on x

  “This is a contract that should be made with GEICO Insurance, not with the Department of War,”

• @nic_carter Nic Carter on x

  every single piece of evidence and reporting about the Anthropic/DoW spat has revealed that they were an absolute liability and had no place in our wartime military infrastructure*

• @ericnewcomer Eric Newcomer on x

  worth reading this interview with @emilmichael in @PirateWires https://www.piratewires.com/ ...

• @scotthar_tx @scotthar_tx on x

  Hmmm... @andrewrsorkin has reported on-air for the last few days that OpenAI has the very same problematic terms described, that caused the DOW to part with Anthropic. He says these ToS are really a fig leaf for Anthropic not being MAGA enough in its politics. Which is it?

• @jasonmhicks Jason Hicks on x

  It's easy to get an ‘exclusive’ if you interview one interested party and don't challenge them, but it's not journalism.

• @solaawodiya Sola Awodiya on x

  For those wondering how the Anthropic saga started, take a read.

• @micsolana Mike Solana on x

  pirate wires interviewed the DOW's AI chief yesterday. new details here on the negotiation with anthropic, including more context on the SCR designations, and color on a massive culture clash. most salient point, perhaps: emil michael says a deal is still possible.

• @piratewires @piratewires on x

  EXCLUSIVE: Department of War AI Chief On How The Anthropic Deal Collapsed When Emil Michael (@USWREMichael) took over the Department of War's AI portfolio last August, he discovered the Biden admin had been “asleep at the wheel” when it came to top military contracts. “I was [ima…

• @deredleritt3r Prinz on x

  This clarifies why the DoD is pursuing the supply chain risk designation against Anthropic. The tensions started with the Maduro raid. The DoD was using Palantir as a service provider during the raid. Palantir was using Claude. Anthropic contacted Palantir and started asking

• @gdsimms @gdsimms on x

  ok, I was unsure & leaning this way so far, but this really cements that the DoW did the right thing re: Anthropic. Sorry guys, love your product but you simply can not act like all of your customers are in the same league. Hopefully you can swallow your pride & move forward.

• @hamandcheese Samuel Hammond on x

  Nothing in here to justify the SCR decision, though nice to hear the bridge isn't totally burned. One hopes cooler heads will prevail and the designation will be withdrawn sooner rather than later.

• @noahpinion Noah Smith on x

  By the way, as much as I hate to say it, the Department of War is right and Anthropic is wrong. Here's why. [image]

• @krishnanrohit Rohit on x

  @Noahpinion It is absurd to say you're building a nuke and not expect the government to take control of it! https://www.strangeloopcanon.com/ ... [image]

• @deanwball Dean W. Ball on x

  Ok, so the actual argument is more like “Anthropic builds a useful technology whose utility is growing, therefore they should expect to have their property expropriated and to be harassed by the government.” The whole point of America is that isn't supposed to be true here.

• @deanwball Dean W. Ball on x

  The problem with this is that DoW is not taking Anthropic's calls for “oversight” seriously. Indeed, elsewhere in the administration, Anthropic's “calls for oversight” are dismissed as “regulatory capture” and actively fought. Rohit and Noah are dressing up political harassment.

• @noahpinion Noah Smith on x

  The recent fight between Anthropic of the Department of War illustrates a deeper truth: AI is a weapon, and it might soon the most powerful weapon ever created. https://www.noahpinion.blog/ ...

• @creatine_cycle Atlas on x

  .@Noahpinion weighed in on Anthropic vs DoW. “if you are building something that is more powerful than nuclear weapons you do not get to keep it. that is the rule of nation states.” - @Noahpinion “if the nation state allows you to build a private nuke tomorrow there is no [video]

• @nathanpmyoung Nathan on x

  I think there is something to this but Smith is reaching. We don't need to say the DoW was right to say that AI is unregulated according to anthropic's view.

• @deanwball Dean W. Ball on x

  We should be extremely clear that trump admin largely views Anthropic's claims about the future of AI as outlandish (in some ways I do too!), and so the above quoted material is not so much analysis of the relevant usg actors as it is analysis of what rohit himself thinks

• @thezvi Zvi Mowshowitz on x

  The correct response to realizing this is what you are building is to notice that if anyone builds it, everyone probably dies and then rather than care who owns it you DON'T F***ING BUILD IT.

• @deanwball Dean W. Ball on x

  Pause to reflect that the Trump Admin has officially taken the harshest regulatory action against a frontier AI company of any U.S. government entity (Colorado's SB 205 is harsher but not in effect), and that Claude is now more strictly regulated by USG than any Chinese AI.

• @tristansevers @tristansevers on x

  Something is a supply chain risk _because_ it is crucial to ongoing operations but foreseeably subject to an external veto. Did none of you read the law? ...OK admittedly it's one of the most opaquely phrased laws I've ever seen. But it does explain this!

• @deanwball Dean W. Ball on x

  Anthropic has confirmed what I'd have guessed: the DoW's supply chain risk designation is profoundly narrower than Secretary Hegseth threatened last week.  It applies only to DoW contractors in their direct fulfillment of the military contract, as opposed to requiring contractors…