Discussion

• @jakemiller192 Jake on x

  Read these two stories side by side: Story one: June last year. A guy named Jesse Van Rootselaar describes shooting scenarios to ChatGPT. The model flags it. A dozen employees debate calling the cops. OpenAI leadership says: No. Eight people are dead now. Story two: Same [image]

• @klonnypin_gosch @klonnypin_gosch on x

  People are starting to understand the implications of ChatG-PTK & the weaponization of AI for fully automated mass mind kontrol with every new story like this in which a dozen Open•AI employees fail to report a mass shooter's flagged prompts & msgs before they go ballistic 👀 [ima…

• @agoldmund Alex Goldman on x

  I'm worried about how ChatGPT is causing both suicides and homicides.

• @benwoodfinden Ben Woodfinden on x

  This is a big story - first because of the failures of whatever safeguards ChatGPT had failed but also because as AI adoption goes viral it creates a digital panopticon. AI is changing the world and making it more legible (read James C. Scott). We aren't prepared for how this

• @mrgunn @mrgunn on x

  Are these the people you want responsible for halting a dangerous model release?

• @prestonjbyrne Preston Byrne on x

  This is nuts. On any social media platform I can think of this would have prompted a report to the FBI.

• @luke_metro @luke_metro on x

  I do wonder how this will actually hit with the public Most people know about “training” as an abstract concept but I think there's a greater expectation of privacy with AI chats than, say, social media posts

• @seltzergenius @seltzergenius on x

  @AricToler i understand the outrage here but the idea of formalizing a system wherein ai companies cooperate with law enforcement is a horrendous idea especially as western law enforcement quickly becomes more and more lawless and ideological

• @arictoler Aric Toler on x

  This is absolutely nuts. The British Columbia school shooter's ChatGPT messages weren't just flagged by the automated system, but **a dozen OpenAI employees reviewed and debated them** https://www.wsj.com/... [image]

• @miles_brundage Miles Brundage on x

  ("what should have been done" given the info there was at the time. Maybe it was super obvious + leadership fucked up, I don't know. But it's hard to say with only the info in this article given hindsight bias)

• @miles_brundage Miles Brundage on x

  I don't know enough to say what should have been done here but I will say that there is zero chance xAI would have even noticed this (Mentioning since a certain centibillionaire is trying to weaponize this story) https://x.com/...

• @autismcapital @autismcapital on x

  Are you guys paying attention? Everything you discuss with your AI can and will be used against you one day. In fact, every thing you share online can and will be used against you. All someone needs is to decide you're an enemy and they'll retroactively go through the entire

• @elonmusk Elon Musk on x

  Troubling

• @jeffbercovici Jeff Bercovici on x

  Last June, OpenAI employees flagged violent ChatGPT activity by Jesse Van Rootselaar, the suspect in the Tumbler Ridge mass shooting. The company decided not to alert Canadian police. @georgia_wells has the story. https://www.wsj.com/...

• @jacobware Jacob Ware on bluesky

  One of the most outrageous and infuriating stories I have read in a long time.  An unforgivable dereliction of duty.  —  “ChatGPT maker opted against informing authorities about Jesse Van Rootselaar's descriptions of violence last June.” @georgiawells.bsky.social

• @parismarx.com Paris Marx on bluesky

  OpenAI employees pushed for the company to inform Canadian police about a user they thought would engage in real-world violence months before the person did just that, killing eight people in a horrific attack in Tumbler Ridge.  —  The company only reached out to police after the…

• @eslfairy Kimiko Shibata on bluesky

  Software flagged the shooter's queries as being problematic with the potential for real-world harm.  —  The humans in charge chose not to act.  —  People died.  —  Better policies need to be in place to proactively respond to in-risk youth before they start killing people.  —  ww…

• @drewharwell.com Drew Harwell on bluesky

  Huge story by Georgia.  Flagged by an automated review system, debated by “about a dozen staffers,” and OpenAI did nothing.  [embedded post]

• @grahammacklin Graham Macklin on bluesky

  ChatGPT-maker OpenAI said it considered last year alerting Canadian police about the activities of a person who months later committed one of the worst school shootings in the country's history.

• @jenstden Jen St. Denis on bluesky

  I'm reading more about ChatGPT's policies, and obviously there are huge privacy concerns about when to notify police.  —  OpenAI says they suspended Van Rootselaar's account and are now cooperating with police on the investigation into the Tumbler Ridge shooting. www.wsj.com/us-n…

• @kevincollier Kevin Collier on bluesky

  Reaaally interesting and troubling addition to the What Should AI companies Track And Tell The Government About You issue

• r/technology r on reddit

  OpenAI Employees Raised Alarms About Canada Shooting Suspect Months Ago

• r/singularity r on reddit

  Months before Jesse Van Rootselaar became the suspect in the mass shooting that devastated a rural town in British Columbia, Canada …

• r/TrueAnon r on reddit

  OpenAI Employees Raised Alarms About Canada Shooting Suspect Months Ago

• r/news r on reddit

  ChatGPT-maker OpenAI considered alerting Canadian police about school shooting suspect months ago

• r/BetterOffline r on reddit

  OpenAI Employees Raised Alarms About Canada [school] Shooting Suspect Months Ago

• r/britishcolumbia r on reddit

  OpenAI Employees Raised Alarms About Canada Shooting Suspect Months Ago

• r/canada r on reddit

  OpenAI Employees Raised Alarms About Canada Shooting Suspect Months Ago |  ChatGPT maker opted against informing authorities about Jesse Van Rootselaar's descriptions of violence last June.