Unsealed docs from Elon Musk's OpenAI lawsuit, set for a jury trial on April 27: Sutskever's concerns about treating open-source AI as a “side show”, and more
The case is going to jury trial in April, and based on the evidence that has been unsealed so far, it's going to be a wild one sources.news/p/20-revelat...
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Discussion
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@wholemars
@wholemars
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Wow [image]
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@elonmusk
Elon Musk
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Can't wait to start the trial. The discovery and testimony will blow your mind.
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@jasonkwon
Jason Kwon
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maximum truth seeking... [image]
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@wholemars
@wholemars
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@_nathancalvin
Nathan Calvin
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I learned from @OpenAI's great research on AI scheming: you always gotta check the internal chain of thought, not just the final outputs. Humans don't usually write down scheming chain of thought strings on their hidden scratchpad, but sometimes...
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@chrisjbakke
Chris Bakke
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OpenAI team from 2017-2023: “hey - let's do some shady stuff” Greg Brockman: “perfect, I'll write it all down as we go”
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@sama
Sam Altman
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🫠 [image]
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@sama
Sam Altman
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I remembered a lot of this, but here is a part I had forgotten: “Elon said he wanted to accumulate $80B for a self-sustaining city on Mars, and that he needed and deserved majority equity. He said that he needed full control since he'd been burned by not having it in the past, a…
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@sama
Sam Altman
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lots more here: https://openai.com/... elon is cherry-picking things to make greg look bad, but the full story is that elon was pushing for a new structure, and greg and ilya spent a lot of time trying to figure out if they could meet his demands.
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@worksleeve
Tung Nguyen
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The amount of criticism on Elon from ChatGPT users is hilarious. There would be no ChatGPT without Elon. The irony holds: many ChatGPT users criticize Elon while using a product rooted in his early efforts.
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@beylin
Mark Beylin
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Probably best not to document crime in your diary
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@suchenzang
Susan Zhang
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“OpenAI's biggest tool is the moral high ground” [image]
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@gdb
Greg Brockman
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The negotiations touched on personal motivations, e.g. Elon told us he wanted OpenAI equity in order to accumulate $80B. I spent a lot of thought on what could be my own motivations, with my personal journal reading like a long “chain of thought”. My deposition has some [image]
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@trenttullis
Trent Tullis
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Gonna be a rough one in court for OpenAI. I wonder what this does to Microsoft Copilot if OpenAI gets shut down.
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@chamath
Chamath Palihapitiya
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Wow, indeed.
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@empathic_lead3r
@empathic_lead3r
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They openly discuss their conspiracy to commit fraud and steal the charity https://x.com/...
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@deedydas
Deedy
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“This is the only chance we have to get out from Elon. Is he the ‘glorious leader’ that I would pick? We truly have a chance to make that happen. Financially, what will take me to $1B?” - OpenAI President Greg Brockman's diary [2017] Deep down, it really is about the money. [imag…
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@bookdepth
@bookdepth
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Broke the cardinal sin: don't ever put it in writing
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@mikekhristo
Mike Khristo
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@wholemars this feels like the part of every Scooby doo episode where they explain the scheme....
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@gdb
Greg Brockman
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Elon told us that he needed majority equity, and he needed to control everything. Ilya and I tried so hard to make things work... https://openai.com/...
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@signulll
@signulll
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in ~5 years there'll be another marquee case, except this time it won't be personal diaries. it'll be nine ai note takers, three auto dialed bots that you didn't even know were in the meeting, all producing perfect transcripts with timestamps everywhere.
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@gdb
Greg Brockman
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Out of respect for Elon and to avoid discrediting him, the whole time we were working together, and even after he quit, we tried to avoid correcting his false narratives in public. Looking forward to finally having an opportunity to talk about the real history of OpenAI.
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@_ueaj
@_ueaj
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“Financially, what will take me to $1B?” - Brockman 2017 And then the $100M AI deregulation superpac. $25M, top donor to MAGA Inc. I literally cannot fathom working for such a company. Deeply anti-human leadership. We're all worth hundreds of thousands of dollars a year as
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@wholemars
@wholemars
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Interesting that Greg Brockman proposed Adam d'Angelo as a board member back in 2018 [image]
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@gdb
Greg Brockman
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I have great respect for Elon, but the way he cherry-picked from my personal journal is beyond dishonest. Elon and we had agreed a for-profit was the next step for OpenAI's mission. The context shows these snippets were actually about whether to accept Elon's draconian terms. [im…
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@wholemars
@wholemars
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If I were Altman, I would try to settle with Musk by giving him some equity or something. This trial will be an absolute circus.
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@shiringhaffary
Shirin Ghaffary
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From last night: Elon Musk's case against OpenAI and MSFT is going to trial. As part of her decision, the judge cited Greg Brockman's note from 2017 below. OpenAI called the suit “baseless” and a part of Musk's “ongoing pattern of harassment,” https://www.bloomberg.com/... [image…
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@sawyermerritt
Sawyer Merritt
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The lawsuit between Elon Musk and OpenAI is surfacing some pretty interesting evidence: OpenAI's Greg Brockman: “It'd be wrong to steal the non-profit from him. to convert to a b-corp without him. that'd be pretty morally bankrupt. and he's really not an idiot.” Days later, [imag…
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@rani
Rani Molla
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Some great stuff in here, including why OpenAI partnered with Microsoft instead of Amazon. Musk in early email to Altman: “I think Jeff is a bit of a tool and Satya is not, so I slightly prefer Microsoft, but I hate their marketing dept.” sources.news/p/20-revelat...
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@alexeheath.com
Alex Heath
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I read thousands of pages in Musk v Altman so you don't have to — The case is going to jury trial in April, and based on the evidence that has been unsealed so far, it's going to be a wild one sources.news/p/20-revelat...