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• @swodinsky Shoshana Wodinsky on x

  gee i wonder why he held that news until he was in a room full of fb-stockholder types 🤔🤔🤔🤔 🤔 https://twitter.com/...

• @joshconstine Josh Constine on x

  @mathewi You didn't think asking about their issues with Apple's policies was newsworthy? https://constine.substack.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...

• @harikondabolu Hari Kondabolu on x

  “Fuck Facebook. I'm deleting my account. They will not own any more of my data.” “Instagram is owned by Facebook.” “But I love Instagram...”

• @tallseller Tall Seller on x

  @scotwingo @retailgeek @DiemAssociation What's the problem? Shopify merchants can integrate onto many platforms to sell, advertise, brand build, do cross channel promotions, etc.. Facebook is one of many very strong Shopify's partners for such, where Facebook even allows their Sh…

• @mathewi Mathew Ingram on x

  @nbashaw @JoshConstine I think it's great when they do that too. But can you think of something important they revealed in that conversation that they wouldn't have talked about otherwise?

• @joshconstine Josh Constine on x

  @mathewi @nbashaw Yes. This! Bloomberg said his comments on Apple rallied the share price to the biggest gain since November, so it seems to have been empirically something he hadn't said despite the situation being this way for months https://www.bloomberg.com/...

• @tallseller Tall Seller on x

  @scotwingo @retailgeek @DiemAssociation The problem w/ the assertion that Facebook, Amazon, & other such big tech marketplaces & social media will overpower all, is its politically correct for regulators to make sure they fairly treat & enable individual businesses, who use Shopi…

• @scotwingo Scot Wingo on x

  Now when I hear this I think: Facebook preparing for IDFA by pulling in transactional platform. Where will this leave Shopify? @TallSeller you seeing thr problem yet? Cc @retailgeek https://twitter.com/...

• @nbashaw Nathan Baschez on x

  @JoshConstine @mathewi I think it's good if powerful people let their guard down and chat in public. It will often reveal important things that formal interviews with journalists won't. And I think that's in the public interest.

• @johnhuber72 John Huber on x

  Zuckerberg is the Tiger or MJ of this generation of business leaders. Relentlessly focused on winning at all costs. Apple amazes me at how great their design talent is; Facebook amazes me at how great their execution is. The Shopify partnership is going to be significant https://…

• @scotwingo Scot Wingo on x

  @TallSeller @retailgeek @DiemAssociation I'm objective and unbiased and when I hear Zuck saying they are focused on opening stores (I think driven by IDFA changes), that seems bad to shopify. Sure, they will be one checkout payment option, but I don't think that's as good as bein…

• @joshconstine Josh Constine on x

  While Zuckerberg, Spotify CEO Daniel Ek, Shopify CEO Tobi Lutke, and I talked and moved the $FB share price, he live painted the IRL portrait 3/ https://twitter.com/...

• @tallseller Tall Seller on x

  @scotwingo @retailgeek So what's the problem? Shopify is Facebook's main e-commerce innovation partner.

• @ccm_ryan Ryan Henderson on x

  $FB Hot Take: Instagram will go the way of Facebook. The experience has been so diluted down with ads, it's unbearable. Doesn't bode well for e-commerce entry either.

• @tallseller Tall Seller on x

  @scotwingo @retailgeek @DiemAssociation I really don't understand what problem you refer to. Do you think that the Facebook Shops number Zuck referred to doesn't correlate to Shopify merchants? Shopify merchants are many of the most successful merchants setting up Facebook Shops …

• @mathewi Mathew Ingram on x

  Here's the problem with Clubhouse: Getting Mark Zuckerberg, Daniel Ek, and Tobi Lutke in a room together is great, but very little of substance comes out of it IMO. The only new thing I learned is Mark likes the “smoking meats” meme. Zero hard questions https://constine.substack.…

• @brfreed Benjamin Freed on x

  If Zuckerberg really thought journalism was part of his “creator economy,” he'd be showering us all with backpay for years of stolen reader revenue and giving us fat monthly stipends in exchange for controlling traffic to our publications. https://twitter.com/...

• @maura @maura on x

  imagine if any of these schmucks paid attention in their humanities classes at their fancy ass schools https://twitter.com/...

• @jonrog1 John Rogers on x

  You know, sometimes Cory Doctorow's snark about tech bros — “Stop inventing shittier trains” — really encounters a perfect, crystalline example. https://twitter.com/...

• @lebassett Laura Bassett on x

  I don't really want to hear anything about the journalism business model from Mark Zuckerberg https://twitter.com/...

• @fosspatents Florian Mueller on x

  Privacy is pretext for shifting app revenues further from ads to IAP/subscriptions, where #Apple collects its tax. Growing and ever more vocal opposition to Apple's #AppStore tyranny. #OpentheAppStore https://twitter.com/...

• @joshconstine Josh Constine on x

  I've collaborated with @fnnch on our first NFT! It's a live Clubhouse portrait of Mark Zuckerberg, Spotify's Daniel Ek, & Shopify's Tobi Lütke speaking on my PressClub show right now. Bid on the combined 1 of 1 digital design NFT & physical painting at https://foundation.app/... …

• @joshconstine Josh Constine on x

  I just published my top takeaways & quotes from my PressClub talk with Mark Zuckerberg, Daniel Ek, & Tobi Lütke, including: -How creators are diversifying monetization -If Apple's policies hurt developers & small biz -Why Clubhouse is just the start https://constine.substack.com/…

• @laurengoode Lauren Masks Are Goode on x

  Mark Zuckerberg is speaking on Clubhouse right now about the creator economy and says he thinks journalism is a part of this economy. The goal, he says, is to create “business models around journalism and long-form writing” 🤔

• @alexeheath Alex Heath on x

  CEOs of Facebook, Spotify, and Shopify in Clubhouse all decrying Apple's app tax and upcoming ad tracking changes is something

• @caseynewton Casey Newton on x

  Zuckerberg was asked about his favorite meme about himself and he said “smoking meats”

• @fosspatents Florian Mueller on x

  Don't misunderstand the headline: the direct impact of #Apple's #IDFA changes on #Facebook's ad biz is negative, but—the way I understand it—they expect Apple's heavy-handedness to make Facebook's own platforms like Facebook Shops more popular places to do business vs. Apple's. h…

• @taylorlorenz Taylor Lorenz on x

  Journalism is not “part of the creator economy” 🥴 https://twitter.com/...

• @firstadopter Tae Kim on x

  Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook now has 1 million active shops with 250 million people interacting with them on a monthly basis

• @sarafischer Sara Fischer on x

  Super interesting.... Facebook's PR team put out a packaged email about Mark Zuckerberg's announcement today on Clubhouse that FB has over 1 million Shops on FB & Insta and over 250 million monthly visitors. Clubhouse as a strategic PR vehicle for companies is happening.

• @kantrowitz Alex Kantrowitz on x

  Getting the sense that Zuck and Daniel Ek really don't like Apple

• @joshconstine Josh Constine on x

  So...Mark Zuckerberg, Spotify CEO @eldsjal, and Shopify CEO @Tobi just joined me on my Clubhouse show @PRESSCLUBhouse to discuss the creator economy! Come join our $1 Trillion market cap room https://www.joinclubhouse.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...

• @wbm312 Whitney Merrill on x

  Says the man whose company lies about the data around video metrics which helped kill so many businesses. Can we stop listening to the advice of a man who has only ever had one job? https://twitter.com/...

• @dylanbyers Dylan Byers on x

  Conversation is currently in the “let's talk about why we don't like Apple” phase https://twitter.com/...

• @andrewmartonik Andrew Martonik on x

  also Facebook, previously: “Pivot to video” https://twitter.com/...

• @martyswant Marty Swant on x

  If Zuck thinks journalists are part of the “creator economy,” he massively undervalues the role of journalism in society. (No surprise there.) So are engineers just “creators” too? Should they be paid in tips for their code? Or via royalties for software? https://twitter.com/...

• @seyitaylor @seyitaylor on x

  It is something and thanks to @JoshConstine putting it together so we can hear it live https://twitter.com/...

• @joinclubhouse Clubhouse on x

  “I have this theory of social apps, at the intersection of every medium & audience size, there's an interesting experience to build. What Clubhouse has pioneered is really impressive. It's going to end up being one of the modalities of audio.” - Mark Zuckerberg #OverHeardOnCH 🙏

• @steven_strauss Steven Strauss on x

  Man who makes money from people creating free click bait platform for his platform encourages people to keep creating free click bait content for his platform. https://twitter.com/...

• @thisistechtoday @thisistechtoday on x

  The fact that the CEOs of Facebook, Spotify, and Shopify are having a clubhouse chat for hours about Content Creators and the Creator Economy should tell you a lot about about where things are heading. So much opportunity ahead. https://twitter.com/...

• @sparklingruby Kristen Ruby on x

  Facebook is reportedly working on a #clubhouse competitor. Yet, Mark Zuckerberg is on the app right now speaking to thousands of people. Will @joinClubhouse enforce their TOS or give their tech friends a pass? You agree to not use the Service to: https://twitter.com/...

• @parismarx @parismarx on x

  Why speak to journalists when you can announce things to an incredibly friendly audience while chatting with fellow platform billionaires? https://twitter.com/...

• @vantoai Alan VanToai on x

  @CaseyNewton Zuckerburg panning Apple for providing itself private APIs for its products is the ultimate hypocrisy. The entire FB ecosystem of products has exclusive API access to one another.

• @jimprosser @jimprosser on x

  @sarafischer Also, can't remember the last time he announced something outside a FB-owned and operated property or event.

• @marceloplima Marcelo P. Lima on x

  So interesting to have Mark Zuckerberg, Daniel Ek and Tobi Lutke on Clubhouse at the same time. Would've been hard—impossible?— to do in a regular panel.

• @danielpearson Daniel Pearson on x

  Mark Zuckerberg on Clubhouse today talking about their Shopify partnership: There are now 1M Facebook Shops with 250M monthly shoppers. The scale of anything they do is so 🤯.

• @baratunde @baratunde on x

  Currently listening to this Clubhouse room with Mark Zuckerberg which I think is just him and others dunking on Apple. Is this the new corporate communications strategy?

• @kiyanak Kiyana Katebi on x

  You're not gonna believe this, but there are mini rooms in CH right now that are just broadcasting Zuck's event as the main room he's speaking has been overflowed and many can't get in. 🤭 https://twitter.com/...

• @jason_kint Jason Kint on x

  whoever is essentially relaying Mark's gaslighting how Apple's privacy changes are bad for small business and the open web should be removed from stage is very disappointing, I'm glad I don't know who it is. It would prob be bad if I knew. They should work for FB PR.

• @benedictevans Benedict Evans on x

  Meanwhile; the demand for side-loading is so totally misguided. On one side it kills half the security model, and on the other it's too geeky to be viable as a real competitive distribution channel. You need the store and the sandbox, and you need to engage with the rules

• @benedictevans Benedict Evans on x

  Listening to an hour of tech CEOs saying they would like to do XYZ on iOS is fine, but it would be good to pull apart what's really just Apple rent-seeking (Spotify) and what are genuine trade-offs around privacy and security.

• @jason_kint Jason Kint on x

  Clubhouse has given Zuckerberg another channel to bypass difficult questions. And talk about what he wants to talk about... https://twitter.com/...

• @benedictevans Benedict Evans on x

  Listening to Zuck digging in on Apple's ‘private APIs’ on Clubhouse. Illustrates the point that side-loading and competing app stores do not get at half the things regulators will look at. You have to get at the rules, wherever they're implemented.

• @caseynewton Casey Newton on x

  Zuckerberg says private APIs on iOS pose a bigger business risk to Facebook than the much-discussed changes to IDFA. There's an increasingly big difference between what FB can do on Android vs. iOS, he says

• @caseynewton Casey Newton on x

  Zuckerberg said that Facebook Shops now have 1 million monthly active businesses, visited by 250 million people a month. From a partnership with Shopify that launched a year ago