Canada may think Bill C-18 still has more room for negotiation, based on Meta's 2021 deal with Australia, but tech platforms no longer view news as valuable
Slate Nitish Pahwa
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@tobi
Tobi Lutke
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Embarrassing for Canada to draft such a dumb bill into law. https://twitter.com/...
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@garossino
@garossino
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Google commands 97% of mobile search share. Google and Meta command 80% of all Canadian online advertising. And they're threatening us? Can anyone say ‘ANTITRUST’? https://twitter.com/...
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@acoyne
@acoyne
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Never seen a government that so perfectly fused ruthless partisanship, ideological fanaticism and flower-child naivety. Usually it's one or the other. https://twitter.com/...
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@jason_kint
Jason Kint
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Official statement from @DCNorg regarding the passing of the Online News Act (C-18) in Canada and the ongoing threats being made by Google and Meta. [image]
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@garossino
@garossino
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Accurate & verified information is the lifeblood of democracy. But not Facebook! Facebook's algorithm is coded to promote high engagement content—and rage is the highest value content. Even when they know it's more likely to be misinformation https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ... […
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@heathermoandco
@heathermoandco
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#BoycottGoogle. Canada & Australia passed laws to protect content providers from the raiding of content by giant corporations who have overseen open threats to democracy. So of course #CPC pumps out disinformation siding with #Google & #META. #NeverVoteConservative #cdnpoli
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@pierrepoilievre
Pierre Poilievre
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Big tech will now pay LESS for Canadian news after your law. They have now stopped funding 🇨🇦journalism. And you have made 🇨🇦 news disappear. The opposite of what you promised. [image]
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@acoyne
@acoyne
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Utter and complete fiasco. Rodriguez has to go; the govt needs to rethink. Google to remove news links in Canada in response to online news law | CBC News https://www.cbc.ca/...
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@ivisonj
John Ivison
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Now that we've reached High Noon, I suspect we will see a face-saving compromise reached when the regulatory process before the CRTC begins. The alternative is newspapers dead in the dirt, and Google and Facebook becoming as popular as halitosis in this country. https://twitter.c…
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@miket136
Michael Thomlinson
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Google, Facebook, Twitter et al are not public utilities. These companies don't owe Canada any particular service or extraordinary payments; they don't have to operate here at all. @pablorodriguez makes Canada look like a toddler having a tantrum after being denied a popsicle.
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@mattgurney
Matt Gurney
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The key thing to understand about this is that the crisis in legacy media funding is real. The government was probably always going to be pressured into doing SOMETHING. But the thing they chose to do was bad. They were warned. They did it anyway. And made things much worse.
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@awilkinson
Andrew Wilkinson
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This is a perfect example of something that sounds positive for the news industry on its surface: “Government mandates Facebook has to pay news sites” But the second order consequences will gut many Canadian news organizations: “Facebook and Google block news in Canada in... http…
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@garossino
@garossino
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Torstar & Postmedia have, between them shed $600M annually in annual payroll since 2011. Taxpaying Canadian journalists gone. Just think of the journalism we Could. Have. Had.
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@garossino
@garossino
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Me on this latest #Meta & #Google business. These companies are drawing ~$10 BILLION a year in ad revenue out of Canada—paying zero tax here on that income. But they'll use mob tactics to skip out on a 3% tariff. #cdnpoli https://twitter.com/...
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@moonalice
Roger McNamee
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This is incredibly good news for Canadians: Meta won't negotiate with Canada over Online News Act. If Canada is really lucky, Meta will exit the country entirely. I wish this would happen in the USA. https://twitter.com/...
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@benedictevans
Benedict Evans
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The funny thing is that when this happened in Australia, there were squeals of outrage that Google and Meta objected to being extorted. But now they're pulling news from Canada as well, everyone seems to understand how stupid these laws are. Partly better comms. https://twitter.c…
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@benedictevans
Benedict Evans
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There's a perfectly coherent argument that the social value of news means those companies should get a subsidy. But claiming this is about copyright, competition or ‘using news’ is the most transparently dishonest bullshit.
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@benedictevans
Benedict Evans
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The whole thing is absurd. You want to charge two companies, but no-one else, to have *links* to news companies, but no-one else. Is it really so hard to admit you want a subsidy, and make an honest argument for that?
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@benedictevans
Benedict Evans
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So, Google stands on principle and follows Meta in pulling links to news in Canada, given the new Link Tax law there. If you want to charge someone a fee for doing something, where that fee has no economic basis, then they won't do it. https://blog.google/...
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@ketanj0
Ketan Joshi
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Google and Facebook both had massive wins when they went up against the Aus government and against Aus news publishers on this. They have to pay 0.000001% of their absurd profits to news publishers, and they get to host News Corp climate/energy denial and disinformation https://t…
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@parismarx
Paris Marx
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But there's also an opportunity to think much bigger: to create an independent media fund, strengthen the public broadcaster, and even learn from the past to build public internet infrastructure and platform alternatives to reduce US tech influence. https://www.disconnect.blog/ .…
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@parismarx
Paris Marx
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Canadian media is struggling, with significant job losses and closures in recent years, so the government responded by following the example set by Australia's news bargaining code to force platforms to pay for news content. https://www.disconnect.blog/ ... [image]
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@slate
@slate
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“I think it was a catastrophic mistake.” https://slate.com/...
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@sophienadeau
Sophie Nadeau
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This is an excellent summary of what's happening in the Canadian media ecosystem right now & as of this afternoon add Google to that headline https://slate.com/...
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@mx_annelise
Annelise
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This piece argues (persuasively, to me) that the Canadian government's attempt to save journalism will make things worse. As California state government fancies itself as another savior, I can't imagine we'll meet a better fate https://slate.com/...
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@bzubyk
Brad Zubyk
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Good news for our democracy folks. More tax dollars promised to our “private” media already dependent on government largesse to stay afloat. Media dependent on government is a sign of a healthy democracy according to Pablo. #cdnpoli https://www.cbc.ca/...
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@jessebrown
Jesse Brown
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More bad news for newsrooms that refuse to take government media funding. https://www.cbc.ca/...
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@lawgeeknz
Rick Shera
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Relevant for New Zealand also going down this path https://twitter.com/...
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@pahwa_nitish
Nitish Pahwa
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wrote about how a new law in Canada, passed with the intent of making Google and Facebook share money with news outlets, may end up accelerating the decline of the country's media sector. with insights from @JesseBrown, @mgeist, and @doctorow: https://slate.com/...
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@miketmcmullen
Mike McMullen
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“I think it was a catastrophic mistake.” https://slate.com/... via @slate The plan was never to save journalism, the plan was to control the news. Wake up Peoplekind
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@jessebrown
Jesse Brown
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Spoke to Slate about our shitshow. https://slate.com/...