Discussion

• @chorzempamartin Martin Chorzempa on x

  This is important, don't think that just because someone speaks are at a conference in China w/o intended US audience that there isn't an agenda focused on lobbying domestic policymakers

• @provisionalidea James Rosen-Birch on x

  I think people are reading this the wrong way. It's not a foregone conclusion so much as a plea for the state to intervene and address the issue.

• @yishan @yishan on x

  @jukan05 They don't have 3-5 years. AGI in US labs is on track to emerge in 2027.

• @robleclerc Rob Leclerc on x

  once all low low hanging fruit has been picked, it'll all come down to who has the most compute and it's hard to pay for that with open source models and trade limits on gpus. america will look unstoppable in this second inning. china's only option is a concentrated national

• @aidanshandle Aidan on x

  searched for a while and found a pretty dense article with a partial transcription of the full event https://eu.36kr.com/...

• @jukan05 Jukan on x

  Out of these, only ByteDance is considered to be valued at a reasonable valuation. As soon as ByteDance goes public, I'm going to buy it right away.

• @hamandcheese Samuel Hammond on x

  Export controls are working

• @jukan05 Jukan on x

  According to a Bloomberg report, Justin Lin, the head of Alibaba's Qwen team, estimated the probability of Chinese companies surpassing leading players like OpenAI and Anthropic through fundamental breakthroughs within the next 3 to 5 years to be less than 20%. His cautious [imag…

• @rushdoshi Rush Doshi on x

  Alibaba's Qwen head effectively explains why US export controls give the US the advantage in AI over China. “A massive amount of OpenAI's compute is dedicated to next-generation research, whereas we are stretched thin — just meeting delivery demand consumes most of our

• @kyleichan Kyle Chan on x

  Why would top Chinese AI leaders admit so publicly that they're falling behind the US due to computer constraints? One answer: they're lobbying Beijing fiercely to get export controls lifted and allow purchases of more powerful Nvidia chips like the H200. https://www.bloomberg.co…

• @liqian_ren Liqian Ren on x

  Four top and young Chinese AI industry leaders (Tencent, Baba heads and two others) had an open discussion. The discussions laid out US richer and can try many uncertain things, thus more money on computing and more unexpected innovations. But China also has ways to optimize [ima…

• @kimmonismus @kimmonismus on x

  Chinas AI leaders: see leapfrogging the likes of OpenAI and Anthropic at less than 20% over the next three to five years. The reason? Compute, of course. Compute is Americas biggest moat. [image]

• r/technology r on reddit

  China is closing in on US technology lead despite constraints, AI researchers say

• r/singularity r on reddit

  Leader of Qwen team says Chinese companies severely constrained by inference compute

• r/LocalLLaMA r on reddit

  Leader of Qwen team says Chinese companies severely constrained on compute for large scale research experiments

• r/agi r on reddit

  Chinese AI researchers think they won't catch up to the US: “Chinese labs are severely constrained by a lack of computing power.”

• r/ControlProblem r on reddit

  Chinese AI researchers think they won't catch up to the US: “Chinese labs are severely constrained by a lack of computing power.”

• r/OpenAI r on reddit

  Chinese AI researchers think they won't catch up to the US: “Chinese labs are severely constrained by a lack of computing power.”